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je$$ wrote:
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is Gorz the Emissary of Darkness and The tricky allowed?


learn to read the rules before asking Twisted Evil


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To answer you, rules say LE cards n magazine promos NOT ALLOWED, no Gorz and Tricky.
However, upper got reprint in booster.
BUT, upper cards are ALSO NOT ALLOWED.
So go figure.
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The place is at school of social what?? Quite confusing siaz. Anyway, who wan meet up then go tgt??? Too bad not team tournament. Or else everyone scramble liao
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The place is at school of social what?? Quite confusing siaz. Anyway, who wan meet up then go tgt??? Too bad not team tournament. Or else everyone scramble liao


goooooooogggggglllllleeeeeee tttttthhhhhheeeee mmmmmaaaaapppppp laaaaaaaaa
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One word of caution though.

The tourney is held during one of the busiest weeks in the SMU academy calender. Be prepared for many staring eyes......

This is one reason why I WILL not join it. Maybe go there look look then do project? LOL
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Banana,
if the people are really as busy as you've mentioned, would they have the free time to stare around? Lol
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They will walk through the concourse area. Thats when they will stare for a while, or maybe longer.
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lol...clever mov...choose nice place...after hearing this, i maybe not going le
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Banana : you join anot doesnt matters much , i just wan tat specific water cooler =x

joking joking.. see how ba when time comes..
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Banana wrote:
They will walk through the concourse area. Thats when they will stare for a while, or maybe longer.

But people stare also nevermind. Chances are, you won't know a single one of them. That is, with the exception of Banana lah.
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o.o understand thanks
got made confuse cause friends anyhow spam
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LOL, if you always had an exhibitionist streak to let everybody see you duel, go ahead be my guess.

Scenario 1..
People walk past the crowd of people crowding around a few tables...
Loud Shout: "OMG! HE TOP DECK MONSTER REBORN!"
People stop, stare, and start to point finger and shake head

Scenario 2..
Finally scenario 1 wearing off, people start moving off...
Loud Shout: "WAH LAU! HE GOT HONEST!"
People beginning walking back again..

Scenario 3...
..........

You guys get the drill
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I thought those people crowding around the duelist tables were told to keep quiet, lest they affect the duelists?
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gors is not allowed in the tournament, only promos tt haf been reprinted in official packs like brionac, gadgets are allowed. entry fee will be confirmed, as for the champion will be representin sg in the hong kong asia.
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DSummon wrote:
LOL, if you always had an exhibitionist streak to let everybody see you duel, go ahead be my guess.

Scenario 1..
People walk past the crowd of people crowding around a few tables...
Loud Shout: "OMG! HE TOP DECK MONSTER REBORN!"
People stop, stare, and start to point finger and shake head

Scenario 2..
Finally scenario 1 wearing off, people start moving off...
Loud Shout: "WAH LAU! HE GOT HONEST!"
People beginning walking back again..

Scenario 3...
..........

You guys get the drill

LOL. Point taken. But most people who play would actually be playing their own matches. And bystanders wouldn't know the card names.
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Axehead wrote:
DSummon wrote:
LOL, if you always had an exhibitionist streak to let everybody see you duel, go ahead be my guess.

Scenario 1..
People walk past the crowd of people crowding around a few tables...
Loud Shout: "OMG! HE TOP DECK MONSTER REBORN!"
People stop, stare, and start to point finger and shake head

Scenario 2..
Finally scenario 1 wearing off, people start moving off...
Loud Shout: "WAH LAU! HE GOT HONEST!"
People beginning walking back again..

Scenario 3...
..........

You guys get the drill

LOL. Point taken. But most people who play would actually be playing their own matches. And bystanders wouldn't know the card names.

That's precisely why public heads will turn, because nouns like "monster reborn" n "honest" will stir curiosity. If it's just a dueling with no shouting or any rowdy behaviour, people will just walk pass without paying a look.
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lol ... like going to a zoo like tt .... " OMG SEE THE LION IS YAWNING!!!!"

no offense to those heading down. =X
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About the rules they set rite..... its best not to trust it was a victim of their trap.
Back at the tag team tournament they say this cant use DT, Promos, eng exclusive cards and only can use cards that upper and konami have
but in the end everything can use causing everyone to last minute change their deck back. Sry for being straight but they do a lousy job
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About the rules they set rite..... its best not to trust it was a victim of their trap.
Back at the tag team tournament they say this cant use DT, Promos, eng exclusive cards and only can use cards that upper and konami have
but in the end everything can use causing everyone to last minute change their deck back. Sry for being straight but they do a lousy job

Lol, by rights this time should be more reliable bah.
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why not u try to host such big tourney?
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I have!

LOL Very Happy
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Well i would if they give me a chance plus the mistakes they made its all poor communication... they even spelled the place wrongly in the poster , kept a poster of that myself !! if the poster states everything clearly non of this will happen, you cant deny that can u ?
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Well, whats stopping you from making a big event? You dont exactly need to book a big meeting room in a convention hall to get people to join you know.

Just plan your event thru, get at least a more accessible location (Speak to card gaming shops, some wont mind lending their space for advertising purpose), timing which is good (Especially for the many students). and of course if you plan how many people you have and the tourney fees, you can plan the prizes out (Nice prizes to attract people), and properly stated and FOLLOWED tourney rules, why not?

Then again, if you have people who dont even really play the game to plan the event and who only like to show off that they have a very big group of people (Filled with kids who dont really know that much better anyway), well, I guess we cant expect very much either way....
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I wonder how many BF deck Will I c
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I wonder how many BF deck Will I c

A lot. Konami made everything common.
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I think there will be a lot of BF and lightlords.
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ya so max bottomless to all deck...lol
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I have a question for rulings, what happens if you declare card effects wrongly? The card goes to the graveyard or gets set back on the field/return to your hand....
(Pardon my asking, I've only played casually and GX Tag Force...)
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ott wrote:
I have a question for rulings, what happens if you declare card effects wrongly? The card goes to the graveyard or gets set back on the field/return to your hand....
(Pardon my asking, I've only played casually and GX Tag Force...)

Here's the link, enjoy: https://sg-ygo.forumotion.com/ruling-questions-and-card-translations-f4/rules-and-regulations-for-yugioh-offical-tournaments-t141.htm
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Axehead wrote:
AngryBoy92 wrote:
I wonder how many BF deck Will I c

A lot. Konami made everything common.

No, they did not. Qalat is rare, Sirocco and Elfen is super rare.
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ott wrote:
I have a question for rulings, what happens if you declare card effects wrongly? The card goes to the graveyard or gets set back on the field/return to your hand....
(Pardon my asking, I've only played casually and GX Tag Force...)

Here's the link, enjoy: https://sg-ygo.forumotion.com/ruling-questions-and-card-translations-f4/rules-and-regulations-for-yugioh-offical-tournaments-t141.htm

Ok, I'll read through. Thanks!
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asakura_y wrote:
Axehead wrote:
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I wonder how many BF deck Will I c

A lot. Konami made everything common.

No, they did not. Qalat is rare, Sirocco and Elfen is super rare.

Not to mention the black feather synchros too. Delta Crow trap is rare too.
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ott wrote:
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Axehead wrote:
AngryBoy92 wrote:
I wonder how many BF deck Will I c

A lot. Konami made everything common.

No, they did not. Qalat is rare, Sirocco and Elfen is super rare.

Not to mention the black feather synchros too. Delta Crow trap is rare too.

There is but only a thin line between commons and rares. And some people don't run Elfen or Sirocco.
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Yes, I agree, thin line between commons and rares, but a silver lining, cos' silver fonts. Lol.
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azurefire. if u haf been to our forum u would haf known tt tag team tourney only tcg exclusive like lightsworn monk cnt be used. we haf already stated to ignore the circle part in the poster. which is tt promos r not allowed. is u nvr pay attention pls dun anyhow flame. ty.
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Then why make the poster in the first place if you choose to ignore it from the start -.- and i'm sure i'm not the only one that never go to your forums , if you want i can even draw up a petition if you want to see the response.
Not to mention a OFFICAL tournament and you expect people to ignore the posters and go to your forums ? i don't see konami doing that for a offical tournament
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Screw-ups happen all the time, if you happen to read through the american tournament reports, so please don't subscribe to the i-can-do-it-better-grass-is-greener-at-the-other-side point of view. Suspect We need all the help we can get, so how about you volunteer to help host the next event? I'm sure we could do with the extra help. Plus you get a small "angbao" at the end of the day. Very Happy

However, as an ex-judge (joining as player this year), there IS a lot of things that can be improved on. Bryan HAS his faults, but I am sure that things would have gotten a lot better if there wasn't so much wailing/ complaining/ aggressiveness in some quarters. Remember, Bryan is NOT a professional, so please don't expect professional posters, organising, correct rulings. All we can assure you is, there is no malice intended to alienate any parties. Twisted Evil

MoV is a big "clan" with lots of kids, and that's precisely what keeps the hobby going. Shopowners are not going to make a living from selling 6 packs per box (the amount of foils in a box) since that's what most of us buy when new sets comes out (I only bought 24 packs/24 foils from RGBT). So having kids is not a bad thing, right? So please refrain from making snide references.

Ah, and before anyone starts saying "Oh, but who-who-who organises so much better!" Well, I joined their tournaments before, and it definitely wasn't any more distinctly better from any other organised by Bryan.

Anyway, I've suggested to Bryan some feedback to facilitate the tournament based on past experiences, so lets hope for some improvements this year, aye? I'll be the first to complain if there's any! Mad
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It seems like a flame war is about to start.

Pls remember that if there are sure signs of it, I will immediately lock this topic and remove it from public viewing.

Thanks for understanding.
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FIGHT!!!

hehe

too bad Edison Chen wont be there.
if not he wil be the headlight tat day...
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well if you need help i wont mind helping as for the angbao i dun really want it i just want to see people play with no complains pretty much like you do and of course like you say there are bounds to be flaws here and there.... in any case i owe an apology to you as i think my message was kinda offense. nevertheless if you need help with organizing things i will be more that willing to offer my help but of course you got to let me finish my tournament first Laughing if you have time do come down to visit the tournament if better yet play it. Once again i apologize
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 11:02 pm

i dun wan to start a flame war. im wrong too. i will apologise here too. and for ur info the poster is frm a template so we cnt do much to change the promo part. hope everyone haf a gd asia this yr! =D
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 11:04 pm

Looks like all disputes are settled. =)

lingbu wrote:
FIGHT!!!

hehe

too bad Edison Chen wont be there.
if not he wil be the headlight tat day...

Then now time to flame edison chen.
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 11:06 pm

y quarrel over card affairs?。。。
keep it calm :}
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptyFri Feb 27, 2009 11:12 pm

blah blah blah,all ends here......
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 28, 2009 2:05 am

Question: Is RGBT Legal?

I remember there was this ruling where new sets/cards/promos can only be used only after a certain period of time after release.

Last year world tournament did not allow the use of Duelist Genesis for some reason.

Edit: I just notice this topic is locked LOL!
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 28, 2009 2:26 am

rgbt is legal,by 15th its already 1 month
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 28, 2009 10:44 am

Then genesis was supposed to be legal too back then, but whatever, it is over =P

Any reason why this topic is locked?
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptySat Feb 28, 2009 11:03 am

genesis wasnt 1 month that time,its almost 1 month ,dunno why they care about this 1 month crap 4 wad

and its locked to prevent flame war.....i re-open whenever i feel the time comes
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PostSubject: Re: [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU   [completed]Asia tourney @ 15 march @ SMU - Page 2 EmptySun Mar 01, 2009 12:16 am

I am unlocking this topic in case someone really has some serious questions about the tournament.

Pls remember the warnings which I have mentioned earlier.

Thanks.
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