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PostSubject: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 12:51 am

Can or cant? I think this is quite it is quite posible since Vayu states dat it special summon the BF sychro nt sychro summon the BF sychro so can just ignore the 1 BF tuner + 2 or more non-tuner monster?
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 1:07 am

yes, thats most likely ><
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 1:32 am

sry cant it stats only 1 bf non tuner

While this card is face-up on the field, this card cannot be used as Synchro Material. If this card is in your Graveyard, you can remove from play this card and a "Blackwing" non-Tuner monster in your Graveyard, and Special Summon 1 "Blackwing " Synchro Monster with an identical Level from your Extra Deck. The effect(s) of the Special Summoned monster by this effect is negated.

so dun think can
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 1:42 am

このカードがフィールド上に表側表示で存在する限り、このカードをシンクロ素材とする事はできない。このカードが墓地に存在する場合、このカードと墓地に存在するチューナー以外の「BF(ブラックフェザー)」と名のついたモンスター1体をゲームから除外し、そのレベルの合計と同じレベルの「BF(ブラックフェザー)」と名のついたシンクロモンスター1体をエクストラデッキから特殊召喚する事ができる。この効果で特殊召喚したモンスターの効果は無効化される。

Yup...cannot....unless they release a level 7 BF monster.....LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 2:01 am

armor wing la if got armor wing means can?
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 2:01 am

Can use Armoured Wing wad...
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Can use Armoured Wing wad...

Ya...if like that can....but u wan waste a armour wing to sync another XXXXX monster?
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If Armor wing happens to be there with vayu at some particular time when you really need it, I dun see why not..
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LOL... Then no point le lah... If you are PRO enough to throw the BF-Armor Master into the graveyard !!!
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LOL... Then no point le lah... If you are PRO enough to throw the BF-Armor Master into the graveyard !!!

he is saying in a case that your armor master is in the graveyard, u can use it with vayu's effect mah ( 刚好 )

and not on purpose u go do it
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Oooppppsss..... Mistaken... But he is pro enough to throw it inside graveyard.... There is no point special summoning BF-Silver Wind out le...
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Oooppppsss..... Mistaken... But he is pro enough to throw it inside graveyard.... There is no point special summoning BF-Silver Wind out le...

torrential tribute,
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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 3:55 pm

.... ever heard of a amour wing getting killed?? mine keeps meeting JD.

and y cant he summon blizzard to synchro armswing. shoot using DDB. sp summon amour wing using vayu. shoot using DDB then sp summon silver wing. to shoot again. 4200 dmg for a blizzard and 2 vayu in grave.


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PostSubject: Re: Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated?   Can Vayu The Big Flag SP Summon BF-Silver wind the Isolated? EmptySat Jul 18, 2009 9:50 pm

Lol that's why, you say like as if the only way an Armoured Wing would ever get into the grave was if the player does it intentionally, disregarding the fact that the game is full of destruction cards.

So it's either you're missing some part of your brain, or you're just spamming. No offence tho.
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I am glad dat ppl understand what I mean cause I din really intend to let my armor master die lolx
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AngryBoy92 wrote:
I am glad dat ppl understand what I mean cause I din really intend to let my armor master die lolx

Who in the right mind would?
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No 1. if you really would intend for it to go grave,
confirm got plans de marh.
wont possible allow opp to get shocked and sae
I'M loving it!
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Q:墓地のBF-大旆のヴァーユとBF-アーマード・ウィングを除外して
 BF-孤高のシルバー・ウィンドを特殊召喚できますか?
A:調整中

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What the... I asked my friends le... They say can cause can ignore the summoning requirements...
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What the... I asked my friends le... They say can cause can ignore the summoning requirements...

note: your friend's opinion does not matter. your friend does not have konami as his/her surname.

vayu card effect :While this card is face-up on the field, this card cannot be used as Synchro Material. If this card is in your Graveyard, you can remove from play this card and a "Blackwing" non-Tuner monster in your Graveyard, and Special Summon 1 "Blackwing " Synchro Monster with an identical Level from your Extra Deck. The effect(s) of the Special Summoned monster by this effect is negated.

do take note that there is NO part of the effect stating that summoning conditions are to be ignored. if u are referring to the last effect of vayu, being the effect negation of the synchro monster, it does not mean u ignore the summoning conditions. conditions are not effects and vice versa. In other words, it is still ambiguous whether vayu can perform acrobatics with silver wind, please wait for konami's response.
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银风鸦
免疫战破的效果 在第一次有「BF」被战破时强制适用 不能自主选择适用时机
能用大旆的效果召唤

Wonder if thats an update....
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Quote :
Q:《BF-大旆のヴァーユ》の効果で特殊召喚できますか?
A:可能です。(09/07/23)
  「チューナー以外のモンスター2体以上」はシンクロ召喚時の制約になります。
Source: 《BF-孤高のシルバー・ウィンド》 -遊戯王カードWiki

Rough Translations:
Q: Can it (Blackwing - Lone Silver Wind) be special summoned through the effect of Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor?
A: It is possible. (23th July 2009)
The restriction of "2 or more non-tuner monsters" is only for Synchro Summoning.

On the same topic of Vayu, do note that the Blackwing special summoned through Vayu's effect is not legally Synchro Summoned; i.e. that monster cannot be Monster Reborn, etc. You can think of Vayu's effect as a Synchro version of Magical Scientist/Cyber-Stein's effect.
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Akira wrote:
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Q:《BF-大旆のヴァーユ》の効果で特殊召喚できますか?
A:可能です。(09/07/23)
  「チューナー以外のモンスター2体以上」はシンクロ召喚時の制約になります。
Source: 《BF-孤高のシルバー・ウィンド》 -遊戯王カードWiki

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Q: Can it (Blackwing - Lone Silver Wind) be special summoned through the effect of Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor?
A: It is possible. (23th July 2009)
The restriction of "2 or more non-tuner monsters" is only for Synchro Summoning.

On the same topic of Vayu, do note that the Blackwing special summoned through Vayu's effect is not legally Synchro Summoned; i.e. that monster cannot be Monster Reborn, etc. You can think of Vayu's effect as a Synchro version of Magical Scientist/Cyber-Stein's effect.

Meaning cannot use Black Shining G?
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Shining G is negate a special summon of a Synchro monster.
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Shining G is negate a special summon of a Synchro monster.

Baha, its destroy not negate... lol...
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ok that was my bad... Whenever I think of some funny effect that reacts to something I would think negation =(
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ok that was my bad... Whenever I think of some funny effect that reacts to something I would think negation =(

Normal mah, people always try make cards they use stronger. Like last weekend Jurong tourney the Mirror of Oathes.
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what hap?
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The guy just thot that mirror of oath is "negate and destroy monster(s) SS from deck. Draw 1 card." Tat's all.
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Akira wrote:
Quote :
Q:《BF-大旆のヴァーユ》の効果で特殊召喚できますか?
A:可能です。(09/07/23)
  「チューナー以外のモンスター2体以上」はシンクロ召喚時の制約になります。
Source: 《BF-孤高のシルバー・ウィンド》 -遊戯王カードWiki

Rough Translations:
Q: Can it (Blackwing - Lone Silver Wind) be special summoned through the effect of Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor?
A: It is possible. (23th July 2009)
The restriction of "2 or more non-tuner monsters" is only for Synchro Summoning.

On the same topic of Vayu, do note that the Blackwing special summoned through Vayu's effect is not legally Synchro Summoned; i.e. that monster cannot be Monster Reborn, etc. You can think of Vayu's effect as a Synchro version of Magical Scientist/Cyber-Stein's effect.


if cant monster reborn can use dark creator o not? o is it the same? im confused silent
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if u cant monster reborn obviously u cant use dark creator. as mentioned, the synchro which is summoned by vayu is not properly synchro summoned, there is no way u can summon it back from the grave.
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then i wonder whats the use of dark creator in my vayu graveyard deck huh....
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then i wonder whats the use of dark creator in my vayu graveyard deck huh....

u can use yr brain on other dark.
darkdive is the key

another lame qns, vayu effect states its effect is negated on the field, does that mean the tuner part is oso negated and can become " one or more non tuner " when synchro?

usually is one tuner plus non tuner.
so does vayu becomes "non tuner " on the field?

jus asking,
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ya im confuse to althought state as tuner, i think its the effect that states it cant syncro so cant become non tuner while being a tuner.... am i rite? so lame and confusing
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then i wonder whats the use of dark creator in my vayu graveyard deck huh....

To reuse those that ARE properly summoned...
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