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yewsoon Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 466 Age : 31 Location : earth Registration date : 2008-01-02
| Subject: card of safe return Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:21 pm | |
| can card of safe return be use during damage step? jus making sure | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:52 pm | |
| It has to be on the field first... and which card with reference are you talking about? | |
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yewsoon Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 466 Age : 31 Location : earth Registration date : 2008-01-02
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:57 pm | |
| card of safe return, jinzo returner get destroy by battle then revive jinzo ...can draw | |
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sp1nn3r Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 407 Age : 36 Location : Ki-Leng-Kia Land Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:26 pm | |
| Yes. The trigger effect will be in the damage step. But you draw after the damage step because the effect can only be resolved after the damage step. | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:59 am | |
| Can cuz Card of Safe Return is already on the field.. | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:54 am | |
| I just realised I was wrong... cosr cannot be used in the damage step... somewhat similar to royal oppression. | |
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Akira Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 163 Age : 36 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-04-01
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:05 pm | |
| Once again, Konami and UDE have different rulings with regards to this. OCG ruling: - Quote :
- Q:ダメージステップ中にモンスターを墓地から特殊召喚した場合、このカードの効果を使用できますか?
A:ダメージステップ中に発動することはできません。(08/09/11) Taken from: 《生還の宝札》 -遊戯王カードWiki Rough Translation: - Quote :
- Q: In an event that a monster is special summoned from the grave during the Damage Step, can this card (Card of Safe Return) be activated?
A: This cannot be activated during the Damage Step. (11th Sept 08 ) TCG Ruling: - Quote :
- Infernarl: Does one get to draw when a monster is special summoned from the graveyard in the damage step with Card of Safe Return?
Curtis Schultz: "Card of Safe Return's" optional Trigger Effect can be activated during the Damage Step. (20th Aug 08 ) Taken from: Yu-Gi-Oh! Rules (official judge list) >> Card of Safe Return + Damage step summons | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:46 pm | |
| according to my knowledge[i may be wrong on this 1] COSR and oppression cannot activate in dmg step some other info..... both can only activate once if 3 wulf sp summon at same time 1)eg: have COSR monster gate flip 3 wolf wolf chain themselves chain 1,2,3 since COSR do not chain and cannot chain due to miss timing,the player can only draw 1 card form the last wolf sp summoned 2) eg: have oppression ryko flip 3 wolf wolf chain themselves chain 1,2,3 since oppression do not chain and cannot chain due to miss timing,the player can only negate 1 wolf via oppression and off topic stuff - Quote :
- If the effect of "Royal Oppression" is activated, and "Mystical Space Typhoon" or "Dust Tornado" is chained to destroy "Royal Oppression", then the effect of "Royal Oppression" disappears because it is a Continuous Trap Card, and the Special Summon will not be negated.
some say can some cay cannot | |
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sp1nn3r Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 407 Age : 36 Location : Ki-Leng-Kia Land Registration date : 2008-07-26
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:50 pm | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:29 pm | |
| Obviously oppression cannot negate opponent summon after it leaves the field because it does not have a graveyard effect. | |
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jadow Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 675 Age : 34 Location : timah Registration date : 2008-08-16
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:33 pm | |
| some ppl hate their 800 lp and only chance to win go to waste ma. so insist it works. | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:33 pm | |
| i doubt it works. because its the same as cosr. | |
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yewsoon Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 466 Age : 31 Location : earth Registration date : 2008-01-02
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:20 pm | |
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Akira Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 163 Age : 36 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-04-01
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:38 am | |
| In short, you will have to clarify with the Judge(s) on which ruling will be observed for the Tournament.
OCG: CoSR cannot be activated during Damage Step TCG: CoSR can be used activated Damage Step
Last edited by Akira on Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:25 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Fixed Typo Errors) | |
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kKbz Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 715 Age : 18 Location : -= s0MewAe =- Registration date : 2007-12-23
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:41 am | |
| - Quote :
- In short, you will have to clarify with the Judge(s) on which ruling will be observed for the Tournament.
OCG: CoSR cannot be activated during Damage Step TCG: CoSR can be used activated Damage Step sometimes is ask organiser , normally for card of safe return , we play yes ^^" .. thats what i encountering recently, just sharing my veiw | |
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Axehead Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 28 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-07-18
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:58 pm | |
| So Oppression leh? Can use on Mystic Tomato? | |
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lingbu Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2945 Age : 115 Location : Not for you to Stalk me! Registration date : 2007-12-18
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:03 am | |
| - Axehead wrote:
- So Oppression leh? Can use on Mystic Tomato?
Nope. | |
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yewsoon Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 466 Age : 31 Location : earth Registration date : 2008-01-02
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| one more thing, if oppression cannot be use in damage step, how can card of safe return be use then??jus asking | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:20 pm | |
| both cannot activate in dmg step la. | |
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DSummon Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1337 Age : 39 Location : Duelist Academy Registration date : 2007-12-15
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:36 pm | |
| Oppression is a card you need to activate. As the usual, no cards except cards that affect atk/def and counter traps in damage step, therefore cannot activate oppression in damage step
For COSR, the typical ruling here in Singapore is that COSR is a card which TRIGGERS when there is a revival from your grave to your field. So no activation it just triggers, so damage step is no issue. | |
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kKbz Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 715 Age : 18 Location : -= s0MewAe =- Registration date : 2007-12-23
| Subject: Re: card of safe return Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:28 pm | |
| Oppression - something you need to pay cost to activate
(if the trap speed dont allow you to do so in "damage step",you cant loh ^^".. similar to the speed counter on 5D episodes..:p)
Card Of Safe Return - is something under the condition triggering.. doesnt really interfere whether the speed allow it to do so anot as long the condition are met. ^^" | |
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