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mutton Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 306 Age : 30 Location : Yee Tee Registration date : 2009-03-17
| Subject: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:58 am | |
| Duel Scenario
Player A vs Player B
Turn 1: Player A goes 1st by using dark grepher effect to throw infernity demon from the hand to throw infernity beetle to the grave,sets 2 spells/traps and end his turn
Turn 2: After Player B draws with him having 6 cards in the hand player A activates trap dustshoot revealing Siroco,Bora,Gale,Icarus,DD crow,Heavy Storm
Question:On player B's hand since there is a dd crow isit possible for the player B to chain dd crow or will player B have to wait for the trap dustshoot effect to resolve and allow player A to choose dd crow to return to the deck. | |
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Ball-Snow Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 786 Age : 32 Location : Singapore - Bishan Registration date : 2009-03-03
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:11 am | |
| if reveal le, means the card resolving cant chain already. if havnt reveal, yes u may activate dd crow in respond to dustshoot | |
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DSummon Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1337 Age : 39 Location : Duelist Academy Registration date : 2007-12-15
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:48 am | |
| @mutton Your situation have to be the tournament organizer decide one. By right he reveal already he cannot chain the crow.
However he said he forgot and try to chain it, thats why i say have to ask the judge / tournament organizer Bryan to decide there, since its technically an error on his side. | |
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holylight Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2304 Age : 27 Location : singapore Registration date : 2010-04-22
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:46 am | |
| cannot use the d.d crow already because player a use trap dustshoot | |
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bahamut84 Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1232 Age : 39 Location : Antartica Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:31 pm | |
| You can chain DD crow to the activation.
When you reveal your hand it's already in resolution and you cant do anything by then. | |
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mutton Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 306 Age : 30 Location : Yee Tee Registration date : 2009-03-17
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:09 pm | |
| oh kk cause i jus wan t to check for future references as yest if the dd crow could not be chained after revealing hand then the infernity player would have won | |
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curryman Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 972 Age : 33 Location : hougang to ang mo kio Registration date : 2009-04-22
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:09 pm | |
| how about if the player B has 4 cards, player A activates trapdust shoot.
qn: can player B chain d.d crow to reduce his hand size to 3, and thus trapdust being unable to resolve as it cannot fulfil the requirement of have 4 or more cards ? | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:23 pm | |
| ^ as long as opp has 4 cards in hand can activate liao,it doesnt matter whether how he wants to dodge the trapdustshoot.Trap dust shoot still resolves. | |
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YGOduelist Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 505 Age : 27 Location : Yishun Registration date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:08 pm | |
| - curryman wrote:
- how about if the player B has 4 cards, player A activates trapdust shoot.
qn: can player B chain d.d crow to reduce his hand size to 3, and thus trapdust being unable to resolve as it cannot fulfil the requirement of have 4 or more cards ? Curryman it can be chained but trapdust shot will still activate unless player B open counter trap cards to counter trapdust shot because trap cards have priority to activate first but if u got a counter trap cards ( EG . Dark bribe ) the priority will start with the counter trap card u activate Simplied Version 1
Player A set trapdust shot on his turn Player B draw , have 4 cards in hand Player A open trapdust shot Player B use D.D crow
Conclusion ~~~ Trapdust shot will still activate due to trap priority =D Simplified Version 2
Player A set trapdust shot on his turn Player B draw , have 4 cards in hand ( before Player A set trapdust shot , Player B had already set a Dark Bribe on his field ) Player A open trapdust shot Player B use D.D crow Player B can still chain trapdust shot with Dark Bribe becuz Dark bribe is a counter trap card
Conclusion ~~~
Trapdust shot will be chained and Player B must use D.D crow effect | |
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curryman Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 972 Age : 33 Location : hougang to ang mo kio Registration date : 2009-04-22
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:23 pm | |
| - je$$ wrote:
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as long as opp has 4 cards in hand can activate liao,it doesnt matter whether how he wants to dodge the trapdustshoot.Trap dust shoot still resolves. o.0 ok, thanks a lot. kinda tot that i could chain d.d crow to stop the trapdust. | |
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wingwing98 Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1083 Age : 34 Location : bishan Registration date : 2008-09-07
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:24 pm | |
| - YGOduelist wrote:
- curryman wrote:
- how about if the player B has 4 cards, player A activates trapdust shoot.
qn: can player B chain d.d crow to reduce his hand size to 3, and thus trapdust being unable to resolve as it cannot fulfil the requirement of have 4 or more cards ? Curryman it can be chained but trapdust shot will still activate unless player B open counter trap cards to counter trapdust shot because trap cards have priority to activate first but if u got a counter trap cards ( EG . Dark bribe ) the priority will start with the counter trap card u activate
Simplied Version 1
Player A set trapdust shot on his turn Player B draw , have 4 cards in hand Player A open trapdust shot Player B use D.D crow
Conclusion ~~~ Trapdust shot will still activate due to trap priority =D
Simplified Version 2
Player A set trapdust shot on his turn Player B draw , have 4 cards in hand ( before Player A set trapdust shot , Player B had already set a Dark Bribe on his field ) Player A open trapdust shot Player B use D.D crow Player B can still chain trapdust shot with Dark Bribe becuz Dark bribe is a counter trap card
Conclusion ~~~
Trapdust shot will be chained and Player B must use D.D crow effect i didn't know trap has priority? or ONLY player does? | |
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YGOduelist Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 505 Age : 27 Location : Yishun Registration date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:30 pm | |
| Yea Trap have priority . Player oso have priority but since Trapdust shot had been set for 1 turn , Chain 1 - Trapdust shot will still activate and Chain 2 D.D crow will still activate | |
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wingwing98 Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1083 Age : 34 Location : bishan Registration date : 2008-09-07
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:37 pm | |
| woah...since when did traps have priority to be honest? | |
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bishzor101 Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 680 Age : 31 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-11-29
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| - YGOduelist wrote:
Simplified Version 2
Player A set trapdust shot on his turn Player B draw , have 4 cards in hand ( before Player A set trapdust shot , Player B had already set a Dark Bribe on his field ) Player A open trapdust shot Player B use D.D crow Player B can still chain trapdust shot with Dark Bribe becuz Dark bribe is a counter trap card
Conclusion ~~~
Trapdust shot will be chained and Player B must use D.D crow effect Are you sure Dark Bribe can be chained to Trap Dustshoot? The last thing that happened in the chain was the activation of D.D. Crow. | |
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Viral Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 436 Age : 34 Location : Eunos Registration date : 2009-05-24
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:15 pm | |
| You either trap dustshoot or d.d. crow. You can't do both. | |
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YGOduelist Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 505 Age : 27 Location : Yishun Registration date : 2010-05-15
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:28 pm | |
| To be honest , monster effect have priority but when the trap activate , u can only chain by using counter trap cards | |
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Viral Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 436 Age : 34 Location : Eunos Registration date : 2009-05-24
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:35 pm | |
| Trap dustshoot and crow are both speed spell 2. They can be chained to one another.
Counter traps are speed spell 3, so they can beat speed spell 2. However, you can only do one or the other. You can't do both. | |
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bahamut84 Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1232 Age : 39 Location : Antartica Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: trap dustshoot and DD crow Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:28 am | |
| The only thing that has priority is the turn player.
Get your facts right. | |
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