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 Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression

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XiaoCola
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PostSubject: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 9:08 am

i have a black whirlwind, and a oppression on field.
then now, i normal summon Black Feather - Blizzard,
then i activate effect of the blizard.
is there anyway to allow blizard effect bypass the oppression???


from axehead-YES,
he say "cos blizzard effect chain link 1 , whirlwind chain link 2 , cannot oppress cause u'll be oppressing on the whirlwind"(axeyboi, correct me if wrong)

what do you all think?


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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 am

then if put in chain 1?
that means
blizard-chain 1,
whlirwind-chain 2?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 10:53 am

then u resolve lah.
resolve back you have:
1.whirlwind-search for bw monster
2.blizzard special summon something.

now the opponent can respond with oppression.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 11:56 am

XiaoCola wrote:
i have a black whirlwind, and a oppression on field.
then now, i normal summon Black Feather - Blizzard,
then i activate effect of the blizard.
is there anyway to allow blizard effect bypass the oppression???


from axehead-YES,
he say "cos blizzard effect chain link 1 , whirlwind chain link 2 , cannot oppress cause u'll be oppressing on the whirlwind"(axeyboi, correct me if wrong)

what do you all think?

2 example:
example A:
I special summon mumillo(chain1) & darius(chain2) with gyarus effect,stardust cant negate mumillo's effect since darius cause stardust to miss the chance to negate e effect.

example B:
I summon blizzard with plasma on e field & activate whirlwind, but opponent chain bottomless trap hole, blizzard will get removed from game & whirlwind will lose effect.

The differences between example A & B is what they do. Stardust dragon's effect is NEGATES a card effect. I will use counter trap to illustrate, counter trap can only activate immediately after the card it is negating. Let say, i have dark bribe, magic drain on my field & my opponent uses heavy storm, I activate dark bribe but opponent activate dark bribe, I cannot chain magic drain because the latter can only activate straight after the spell. The same for stardust dragon, it cannot chain to the mumillo because you can only activate against dairus. Thus I personally believe oppression will miss the chance of activating against blizzard.

But one personal question, doesn continuous spell/trap trigger immediately when requirement is met?
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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 12:49 pm

You have to let your opponent chain when you activate either effect before putting the other on the chain block.

So imo, you can oppression blizzard either way.

The difference with the gladiator example above is the 2 gladiators are summoned simultaneously while the blizzard/ww is not.
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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptySun Dec 13, 2009 9:42 pm

I did say yes indeed, reason was completely made up by yourself =.=

http://www.konami.com/yugioh/blog/?p=1146

"Murray Summoned “Blackwing – Blizzard the Far North.” He constructed the resulting Chain to keep “Royal Oppression” from being Chained, but found no targets for Whirlwind’s effect in his Graveyard. Still it was game anyways – Ralambomiadana had just 1000 Life Points, and Blizzard struck for game."
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PostSubject: Re: Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression   Black Feather - Blizzard VS Oppression EmptyMon Dec 14, 2009 5:42 am

The Reason is copied as xing you say in msn
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