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PostSubject: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 5:58 pm

Hey people. cherry

What if I have Malevolent Match on my field and then I creature swap it,
does it get destroyed on my opponent field on the end phase and my opponent taking the damage equal to its atk?

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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 8:04 pm

Yes. The burn damage affects the current controller
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 10:10 pm

isnt it a graveyard effect?
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyWed Jul 13, 2011 10:28 pm

Mystic Tomato:
When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 DARK monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck in face-up Attack Position.

Goku-En:
You can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. If you do, this card is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase if it is the only Zombie-Type monster on the field.When it is sent to the Graveyard by this effect, you take damage equal to its ATK.

Goku-en's effect resolves on the field before going to the graveyard. It does indicate that as there is a period (underlined) for it to activate unlike mystic tomato. The difference in the text can be understood as activating from "Field to Graveyard" (bold) so its not a graveyard effect. Since the controller still had Goku-en on his field during end phase, he will take the damage.

This IMO is another culprit of poor wording, as one can easily misinterpret it as a similar effect to search monsters like tomato.
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 3:44 pm

so does it get destroyed on my opponent field(when i creature swap) when there are no more zombie type monsters except itself?
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 4:15 pm

Of course
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyThu Jul 14, 2011 11:59 pm

Viral wrote:
Mystic Tomato:
When this card is destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon 1 DARK monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck in face-up Attack Position.

Goku-En:
You can Normal Summon this card without Tributing. If you do, this card is sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase if it is the only Zombie-Type monster on the field.When it is sent to the Graveyard by this effect, you take damage equal to its ATK.

Goku-en's effect resolves on the field before going to the graveyard. It does indicate that as there is a period (underlined) for it to activate unlike mystic tomato. The difference in the text can be understood as activating from "Field to Graveyard" (bold) so its not a graveyard effect. Since the controller still had Goku-en on his field during end phase, he will take the damage.

This IMO is another culprit of poor wording, as one can easily misinterpret it as a similar effect to search monsters like tomato.


sorry another question so that means if goku-en does not gets sent to the grave (eg. d.fissure/ macro cosmos) then the controller of the card does not take damage?
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PostSubject: Re: Malevolent Match & Creature swap   Malevolent Match & Creature swap EmptyFri Jul 15, 2011 12:09 am

Its not a graveyard effect, it activates on the field. So you will still take the burn damage.

The activation of the burn is during the end phase. Take it as damage is dealt first before going to the graveyard.

Going to the graveyard is what happens when you don't have another zombie-type monster, and before going to the graveyard you take the damage.

Its an issue of poor translation / wording on the english card.
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