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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:34 am | |
| Alright before you ridicule my deck I had to trade off my breeze to get an Armor Master. I plan on replacing my Gust with Breeze asap. This deck also doesn't require synchros. They are still very useful but synching WILL reduce your damage potential massively.
Monsters
Gale x1 Gust x1--->to be replaced with Breeze Shura x3 Kalut x3 Bora x3 Blizzard x3 Fane x3 Sirocco x3
Spells
Solidarity x3 Book of Moon x3 Enemy Controller x3 Giant Trunade x1 MST x2 Swords of Revealing Light x1 Swords of Concealing Light x1 Nobleman of Crossout x3 Black Whirlwind x1
Traps
Royal Decree x2
Synchros
Silverwind x1 (this deck makes silverwind easily using Shura's effect to grab Fane and mix with Blizzard.) Armor Master x1 (this deck can spam armor master easily, more is better.)
How this deck works:
This deck is based on MASSIVE damage bonuses and dealing direct damage through direct attacks and piercing damage. Sirocco's effect adds the total damage to a single blackwing monster, unfortunately because Sirocco's wording didn't accomedate for Solidarity that leaves us with a loophole that allows even 5 zero attack monsters to deal over 10k damage thanks to Solidarity.
Example: You have 3 solidarities. Now normally that gives your monsters a 2400 attack boost each but because Sirroco exists you take those 3 Solidarity bonus and multiply it by the number of monsters you control. So 5 monsters with zero attack will deal (5*2400=12000) 12000 damage that can either be direct or piercing, now factor in their damage and you'll end up with a 15-20k direct damage attack.
Advice for running this deck:
Use Enemy Controllers to counter attacks, Book of Moon should be saved for a Nobleman of Crossout combination or for stopping synchros or effects.
Use Kalut defensively unless your direct hit will OTK. Kalut on Shura usually means you can Synch for just about any Synchro but keeping a Fane alive leaves you with direct damage options, switching monster position options and synch options.
Fane is there for synching and while he may be important to use for direct damage OTK your Blizzards can ressurect. Don't be afraid to throw them away while you have Bora direct damage.
Save your Boras for when you have a Sirocco, their numbers with Solidarity add more damage then you think!
Clear traps and continous spells using Giant Trunade, MST and R. Decree, keep your blackwings safe from things like Mirror Force which can obliterate your Sirocco massive OTK combo.
Keep your Sirocco alive, he is the key to your OTK.
This deck has proven itself against
Gravekeeper's Blackwing Gemini/Gigaplant D.D. Monarch/Blue Eyes W. Dragon Inca/Sun+Moon Dragon Reptillianne/Worm hybrid deck Spellcounter/Lockdown Amazoness Dandilion/Drillwarrior Morphing Jar mill OTK/FTK Exodius Six Samurai
I can't think of a 100% guarantee counter to this deck since it bypasses monsters all together and locksdown traps. Secret Village kinda kills this deck but Blackwings have amazing effects, allowing them to overpower most Spellcasters, making their card hurt them instaed of you. | |
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mervynice Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 984 Age : 1357 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2010-02-24
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:40 am | |
| looks like tis cant match up wif Hero Beat or light sworns. U might wan to add in Mystic Plasma Zone For more power, focus everything for sirocco means extra 2500 att | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:58 am | |
| Magic Plasma Zone is good but Solidarity gives enough damage boosts. I mean 2500 extra damage when you're already double OTKing is just overkill and those resources are better spent on allowing the OTK to actually happen rather then lessening its chances at happening for a quadruple OTK. Thanks for the suggestion though and it's nice to know there's a field card to give them wings even more damage.
Hero Beatdown decks need their traps. Lock them down, BOM their fusions and use Kalut defensively and they'll run crying, just like X-Sabers and their annoying Saber/Bottomless/Trap Hole spams.
Can't say anything for Light Beat decks, I've faced good lightsworn decks before but I don't know if it was a beatdown deck or not. | |
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vampirerion Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1981 Age : 1490 Location : France Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:28 am | |
| You missed out the best combo in the format: Battle Fader + Cold Wave + Dark Dust Spirit. Only available in frog monarch. | |
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vampirerion Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1981 Age : 1490 Location : France Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:29 am | |
| you know decree can put 3 rite? i think this deck is kinda inconsistent. | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:00 am | |
| Alright I've made a few changes prodominantly to the spells and traps. Removed Nobleman x3 MST x2 Giant Trunade x1 For Burden of the Mighty x3 Icarus Attack x3 I couldn't get a breeze so instead I use a Revan right now. Still need my breeze though. | |
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xxn00biexx Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 593 Age : 33 Location : Where I think is home Registration date : 2010-07-28
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:18 am | |
| You removed Giant Trunade? In an OTK deck? I see... | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:18 am | |
| Considering that Icarus Attack>Giant Trunade it's a good decision. Hell, even if I'm about to have a Blackwing die on me I can just Icarus attack it and destroy 2 cards my opponent controls.
The Giant Trunade didn't do anything other then a faux destruct effect anyhow, which the Icarus attacks cover in spades. It wasn't even part of the OTK strategy so it got axe'd in favor of cards that make holding off laughable whereas before holding off used to be risky. | |
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jadow Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 675 Age : 34 Location : timah Registration date : 2008-08-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:09 pm | |
| Monsters
Gale x1 Gust x1--->to be replaced with Breeze Shura x3 Kalut x3 Bora x3 Blizzard x3 Fane x3 Sirocco x3
Spells
Solidarity x3 Book of Moon x3 Enemy Controller x3 Swords of Revealing Light x1 Swords of Concealing Light x1 Black Whirlwind x1 Burden of the Mighty x3
Traps
Royal Decree x2 Icarus Attack x3
Synchros
Silverwind x1 (this deck makes silverwind easily using Shura's effect to grab Fane and mix with Blizzard.) Armor Master x1 (this deck can spam armor master easily, more is better.)
if im not wrong this i what u r currently using.
- Fane x3 - Blizzard x3
Gust x1--->to be replaced with Breeze (i feel both not really useful)
- burden of the mighty x3 - Enemy Controller x3 - Swords of Concealing Light x1 - Swords of Revealing Light x1
- Royal Decree x2
+3 mist valley falcon
+2 mst +1 coldwave +2 Swallow's Nest +1 monster reborn +1 black hole
+1 royal oppression +1 call of the haunted +2 solemn warning +1 solmen judgement +2 bottomless traphole
with so many infinite magic traps u will really b afraid of blackrose.
this is going towards field control rather than using all out special summoning.budden unless more traps r added this will still die to machiners. | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:16 am | |
| This is currently what I have
Gale x1 Raven x1 Sirroco x3 Shura x3 Kalut x3 Blizzard x3 Fane x3 Bora x3
R. Decree x2 Book of Moon x3 Enemy Controller x3 Solidarity x3 Burden of the Mighty x3 Icarus Attack x3 Swords of Revealing Light x1 Black Whirlwind x1 Monster Reborn x1
Machiners (I assume you mean gadget decks, proper morphronic decks and such) have lost to this already.
Blackrose is easily countered with book of moon (can't activate its effect if its face down), enemy controller (can't activate its effect if you control it) and Icarus Attack (can't activate its effect if its dead).
No mist valley falcons. They aren't that good and they don't mesh well with my direct damage or the fact that I don't discard anything but Kalut from my hand to the graveyard or have any cards to help that out.
Coldwave is a great card but I already lock down traps pretty badly and only magical dimension ever seems to bother me.
Can't say much about Swallow's Nest since I don't know the card.
Have a reborn in the deck already.
Blackhole isn't something a BW player wants in their deck because it kills off a lot of important momentum especially since nothing can come close to touching this deck in terms of attack and effects are essentially negated thanks to the mass counters I have in this deck.
Opression is a BW deck is just dumb. They special summon quite a bit, even without the focus on Synchros. Opression belongs in decks like GK that don't rely on special summons.
Warning and Judgement are both GREAT cards but they aren't good enough to start pulluing cards out that form a synergetic net of "hahaha you can't do anything to me", not with R. Decree in the deck.
Bottomless is great but again, R. Decree shuts down traps. Too many and all of a sudden I'll be drawing dead cards everywhere. | |
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jadow Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 675 Age : 34 Location : timah Registration date : 2008-08-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:13 pm | |
| machiners normally refer to machinagadgets
i must rmb yr biggest enemy is GK.
was refering to the bomb field effects of BRD but those measures work also. | |
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aurino Duelist
Number of posts : 61 Age : 33 Location : NTU Hostel (anyone here too?) Registration date : 2010-12-04
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:26 pm | |
| Although I can't really imagine how this deck will work in reality, but through ur explanation ur deck sounds so steady.
However, Im just thinking how about if ur opp have Sirocco in his deck? He can absorb all the ATK from all of ur BF monsters and even hit you with more damages. | |
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Avengerz Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 180 Age : 29 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2009-12-01
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:41 pm | |
| - DIYDeath wrote:
- Blackrose is easily countered with book of moon (can't activate its effect if its face down), enemy controller (can't activate its effect if you control it) and Icarus Attack (can't activate its effect if its dead).
You do know that Blackrose can still destroy the entire field regardless if u flip it face down or destroy it, once it is summoned, and the player who summoned it chooses to activate its effect, right? | |
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xxdariusxx Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 226 Age : 34 Location : singapore Registration date : 2010-11-20
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:48 pm | |
| Your deck wont work well against lightlord | |
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Lolzorx Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1140 Age : 31 Location : Dats Center Riverfront Registration date : 2009-05-02
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:53 pm | |
| - DIYDeath wrote:
- Blackrose is easily countered with book of moon (can't activate its effect if its face down), enemy controller (can't activate its effect if you control it) and Icarus Attack (can't activate its effect if its dead).
You came from an alternate universe I guess | |
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xxdariusxx Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 226 Age : 34 Location : singapore Registration date : 2010-11-20
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:02 pm | |
| - DIYDeath wrote:
- Considering that Icarus Attack>Giant Trunade it's a good decision.
Hell, even if I'm about to have a Blackwing die on me I can just Icarus attack it and destroy 2 cards my opponent controls.
The Giant Trunade didn't do anything other then a faux destruct effect anyhow, which the Icarus attacks cover in spades. It wasn't even part of the OTK strategy so it got axe'd in favor of cards that make holding off laughable whereas before holding off used to be risky. Dont get it at all, Huricane is so much better | |
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jadow Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 675 Age : 34 Location : timah Registration date : 2008-08-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:17 am | |
| - Avengerz wrote:
- DIYDeath wrote:
- Blackrose is easily countered with book of moon (can't activate its effect if its face down), enemy controller (can't activate its effect if you control it) and Icarus Attack (can't activate its effect if its dead).
You do know that Blackrose can still destroy the entire field regardless if u flip it face down or destroy it, once it is summoned, and the player who summoned it chooses to activate its effect, right? yesh. but rmb u can stop it be4 its synchroed. all these tech can be used then. he is playing in the TCG format. their way of playing and habits r quite different from us. | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:33 am | |
| Very true I am from TCG so there will be some pretty huge differences sometimes. Pro book and controller use is when you stop the synch before it happens. In your match you should learn to anticipate their black rose. Also if they're a noob and don't take priority bye bye blackrose, lol.
Nah GK isn't my biggest enemy, this deck stomps them with Icarus, Book of Moon and minimal graveyard reliance. My biggest enemy is D. D. Dragon decks or Gigaplant/Powertool decks. | |
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ernestkwanxz Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 145 Age : 25 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2010-09-27
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:56 pm | |
| - DIYDeath wrote:
- Magic Plasma Zone is good but Solidarity gives enough damage boosts. I mean 2500 extra damage when you're already double OTKing is just overkill and those resources are better spent on allowing the OTK to actually happen rather then lessening its chances at happening for a quadruple OTK. Thanks for the suggestion though and it's nice to know there's a field card to give them wings even more damage.
Hero Beatdown decks need their traps. Lock them down, BOM their fusions and use Kalut defensively and they'll run crying, just like X-Sabers and their annoying Saber/Bottomless/Trap Hole spams.
Can't say anything for Light Beat decks, I've faced good lightsworn decks before but I don't know if it was a beatdown deck or not. try kalut-ing absolute zero and ur mobs r so dead and i super poly to spoil ur solidarity (: | |
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awesomehazelnuts Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1819 Age : 28 Location : west beach,florida Registration date : 2010-06-19
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:07 pm | |
| isnt this the main reason ppl come to the forum? | |
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vampirerion Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1981 Age : 1490 Location : France Registration date : 2010-06-21
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:27 pm | |
| wasnt this dead like long ago together with the guy? | |
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elijahkwanxy Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 578 Age : 30 Location : Colosseum Registration date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:03 am | |
| Just my thought...Cloudians + Sanctuary of the sky will spoil ur day?
I know this aint a meta deck but, always be prepared (: | |
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titration Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2939 Age : 30 Location : Bishan Registration date : 2009-10-13
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:23 pm | |
| want to kill debris dandy and everything?use deck devastation virus in this deck then | |
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DIYDeath Duelist
Number of posts : 84 Age : 36 Location : Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Registration date : 2010-12-16
| Subject: Re: Blackwing-Solidarity Variant 20000+ OTK Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:59 am | |
| - ernestkwanxz wrote:
- DIYDeath wrote:
- Magic Plasma Zone is good but Solidarity gives enough damage boosts. I mean 2500 extra damage when you're already double OTKing is just overkill and those resources are better spent on allowing the OTK to actually happen rather then lessening its chances at happening for a quadruple OTK. Thanks for the suggestion though and it's nice to know there's a field card to give them wings even more damage.
Hero Beatdown decks need their traps. Lock them down, BOM their fusions and use Kalut defensively and they'll run crying, just like X-Sabers and their annoying Saber/Bottomless/Trap Hole spams.
Can't say anything for Light Beat decks, I've faced good lightsworn decks before but I don't know if it was a beatdown deck or not. try kalut-ing absolute zero and ur mobs r so dead and i super poly to spoil ur solidarity (: Too bad I can still otk with a double sirroco pump, it's just the difference between 10000 damage and 50000 damage. | |
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