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+34suikoden108 Godlike JokerZ Blackie d3stin3d lingbu Dogchain ah jie nigelndj xmwx depectrez Ball-Snow fireowners pokekid88 deathringer kKbz t3chy DSummon Ron slyx183 Sazabi andrewspectra jian_xin85 wingwing98 XiaoCola Lockon bahamut84 Proxy King Axehead bishzor101 AngryBoy92 Lolzorx kyoju je$$ 38 posters |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:20 am | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:37 am | |
| RANTING TABLES OF CONTENT 1. RUBBISH FORMAT 2. RAIOU,GOLDEN CHEST,GORS = MADE UP RULES 3. MANUAL PAIRING FAIL 4. WONDERFUL RULINGS U MUST KNOWl 1.Rubbish Format so as usual mov didnt announce how many swiss round there will be ,since they didnt have many survivors at the end of round 4 they just remove round 5 and went to top 8 straight away.If you do not know why theres only top 8,take a look at the top 16 standings and make a guess. 1. samuel 2. shu miao 3. shi hao [mov] 4.leon 5.joel [mov] 6.yong xiang 7 alex 8 jason ------------- 9 bryan 10 mark 11 yijie 12 syazuan 13 yulong 14 ron [mov] 15 shelton 16 tanyongsiang during the top 8 , as usual they use their manual pairingl.In the actual format, the person who is the highest rank in the standing must VS the lowest rank.Those who stayed till the end ,try recall he pairings u saw yesterday and see the difference. 2. RAIOU,GOLDEN CHEST,GORS = MADE UP RULES tell me which part of the rules allow u to use those 3 http://www.konami-asia.com/th/yugi5d/en/event_taikai/acs/2010/index.html although i am happy that my deck is 100% unaffected but using ur home-made rules is retarded,if u want to add cards why dont u include cards like raigeki or harpie feather. 3. MANUAL PAIRING FAIL lol epic fail at pairing, so many 1-0 kena paired down. ron with 1-0 gets a bye. Techy kena pair with same opponent twice.Top8 fail pairing 4. WONDERFUL RULINGS U MUST KNOWl hohoho let me share a wonderful ruling during top 8 but 1st i put up the color code the question ruling used by movthe actual rulingI use COTLB and i didnt get to find any LL in deck,what happen next? I get to return all the 3 cards to deck and shuffle,return COTLB back to handCOTLB gets to discard,the 3 cards which milled out will not return to deck.Gameplay will proceed as normalkycoo vs gbeast [if kycoo deals battle damage to gbeast monster,can u use chariot during dmg step?] Unless u got another GB on field if not no.Akira already explained the ruling,this is why kycoo didnt get to RFG the monster it just destroyed Damage Calculation & GB War Chariot Using the same example: Battle Step: -Kycoo propose an attack on GB Laquari. -Both players passed priority. Proceed to Damage Step. Damage Step: Substep 1: Start of Damage Step Substep 2: After Starting the Damage Step Substep 3: At Damage Calculation Substep 4: Inflict Battle Damage -GB Laquari is marked as destroyed by battle (but not sent to the graveyard yet). -Kycoo inflicts 100 damage to the opposing player. Substep 5: After Damage Calculation Substep 6: Immediately After Inflicting Battle Damage -Kycoo's effect activates. -GB War Chariot activated in response to Kycoo's effect. -Kycoo is destroyed by GB War Chariot. Substep 7: Damage Result; Flip Effects; Destroyed by Battle Substep 8: At the End of the Damage Step -GB Laquari is sent to the graveyard.
Notice that the monster is only sent to the graveyard at the last substep.judgment dragon priority ,chain book of moon to JD. will jd destroy himself? Yes. you canwhich retard doesnt know what does " except this card" means.It didnt state that "other than JD" nor book of moon is sooooooo powerful that it can negate the card text.opp use mind control/cyclone,if i want to use solemn ,can i wait for him to TARGET 1st? If you target already, it'll resolve immediately...so your Solemn will like "miss timing"...your solemn can't negate Resolution of effect Singapore has a different playstyle but this ruling was brought up during the Worlds at japan.Even PSP/NDS game also has this,whenever u use cards that requires TARGETING,u must target 1st then opp may respond [even with counter trap]
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:48 pm | |
| RULES OF POSTING IN THIS THREAD
1) NO FLAMING/COMPLAINT ABOUT MOV AND WHATSOEVER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN U AND THEM
2) IF U DONT LIKE THEM,STAY AWAY FROM THEM AND THIS THREAD
3) U DONT LIKE THEIR MANAGEMENT? DONT JOIN THE TOURNEY AND DONT POST
TAKE NOTE: orange text are added by jess,BELIEVE HIM AT YOUR OWN RISK because they are not offical rules,pls note this is hosted by MOV,not me -_-''
DATE: 15 Nov 2009 [SUNDAY] TIME: 8.30 start register [maybe 10am start] Venue: Settlers Cafe SMU Entry Fee: To Be Confirmed [confirm $10 cos everytime its the same]
Champion will be represent Singapore to Taiwan for the Yu Gi Oh Asia Championship 2010
Cautions: Any Region Final winner does not allow to join any remaining Regional Final. Otherwise, you will be disqualified immediately by the event.
Rules and regulation:
VII. colour trasparent outter deck pro are not allow
VIII. DP09 yusei pack 2 is legal to use
IX. Please take note that the following card are allow to be used in upcoming event
-golden sarcophagus -Gors -Raiou
IX. Absolute Powerforce is not allowed as its not 1 month old
X. SD18 machine force new cards are not allowed,reprinted cards are allowed,same reason as point IX
1. Korea and Upper card are not allowed in ALL Official tournaments. The tournament organizer will only allow original Konami Japanese or Asia English Version Official Card Game to be used in Official Tournament.
2. Only card game pack that comes together with Konami original software game products are allowed to be used in Official tournament. (Meaning Psp and any other game so long is a product of Konami can be used)
3. Only original Konami Deck Protectors and Card Sleeves can be used in Official Tournament. Card Protector from Academy Duel Disks are not allowed to be used in tournament.[no prisma sleeves]
4. Double layer deck protector are allow provided the outer layer must be a transparent deck protector. And Players must use same color protectors for all decks and side decks. No markings allowed on protectors [regarding the same color of all decks,i think only ur main deck must be same color cos the previous 1 they ignore this rule]
5. Promo card which are reprinted in structure deck are allow or in any booster pack are allow (Blade knight, Shrink, Goblin zombie, Summoning priest),broniac,dandylion,DT goyo,DT blackrose))
6. The following card game products are not allowed in this tournament:- a) Academy Duel Disk[no prisma ,starlight road etc] b) Card Pack from any Shueisha Magazine, Ygo comic or other English magazines (V Jump, LE.)[no airman/fortress] c) Dual Terminal Card Pack[no AOJ catastore/mist worm/natural beast] d) PP1 , PP2, PP3, PP4, PP8 and PP11[no mezuki nonsense,undead deck died]
7. Players who’re joining the upcoming event must be a Resident Of Singapore or PR
8. All deck size must be 40-60, Extra deck 0-15, Side Deck 0-15 (All optional)
9. All players are to bring their own playmat (ONLY YUGIOH PLAYMAT ARE ALLOW)
10. Any players who found cheating or changing of cards during in the tournament will be disqualify instantly.
11. Judges have all right to disqualify duelist who misconduct and rule violations
12. Judges decision is final
More rules and regulation can be found in http://www.konami-asia.com/th/yugi/eng/tou/tou01.html
Players are reminded to bring along their,
. Pen . Paper . Calculator . Playmat . NRIC / Student pass or Duelist ID card (if you have any)
Feel free to ask any question abt the tournament= = = = ==
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individual card ruling changes
will update if theres more
necroguardna vs dark mirror [guardna in grave can still use effect successfully while dark mirror on field?]
Yes, u can use the effect of neroguadna but will be negated
kycoo vs gbeast [if kycoo deals battle damage to gbeast monster,can u use chariot during dmg step?]
Unless u got another GB on field if not no.
judgment dragon priority ,chain book of moon to JD. will jd destroy himself?
Yes. you can
bf whirlwind [ summon shura tio BTH,still can search?]
no u cannot
bf blizzard [summon blizzard tio book of moon/traphole,still can reborn?]
no cannot and even you have whirlwind on field u cannot find.
rivalry contest of warlord [gb tag in/out ,synchro must be same attribute?]
If your GB tag in/out, IF after paying cost (going back into the deck), you don't have any monsters on your field, you're fine....otherwise your GB attribute must be the same as the existing monster/s on your field (eg. Esquite & Bestari) For Synchro, your Attributes must be the same (dark tuner dark non-tuner) If you perform Synchro summon, and the only monster that will be on your field after the synchro summon is the synchro monster ONLY, then it can be any attribute...OTHERWISE, it has to be the same as the existing monsters on your side of the field
if i use delta crow and my opp chain cards destroy all my BF,will delta crow's effect carry on?
Delta Crow: As long as you fulfill the requirement (1/3 BF on the field), it'll resolve. As long as the requirement to activate is fulfilled...if your opponent chain and clear all your BFs, it will STILL resolve
is damage calculation applied in this tourney? if yes please explain how does damage calculation works and what type of cards can be activated at that "step"
Honest @ damage calculation. Whoever activates Honest at Chain1 during the damage calculation wins. If Shrink is activated on Chain1, any instantaneous increase of attacks from Chain2 onwards (Rush Recklessly, Honest, Qa'lat etc) will be negated and Shrink will cut the original attack. For example, an "Honest-ed" Shining Angel @ Chain2 VS a Shrink, Shining Angel atk will become 700.
opp use mind control/cyclone,if i want to use solemn ,can i wait for him to TARGET 1st?
If you target already, it'll resolve immediately...so your Solemn will like "miss timing"...your solemn can't negate Resolution of effect
if i use goblin zombie/sangan tuner summon broniac,does broniac have priority?
No. The mandatory effect is for Goblin Zombie/Sangan to resolve first. Therefore, Brionac's priority is skipped
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kyoju SGDuelists Admin
Number of posts : 215 Age : 34 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:09 am | |
| Not to be rude or anything, but can MOV improve on the language of this advert, so that it would seem more distinguished? I'm not meaning it in the wrong way, just that it would seem better if the language used here was more formal, as it would state the importance of the event.
Just my penny's worth. | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:03 pm | |
| I dont know which part u are referring,text which are before Point 1 are added by me and i am lazy to rephrase into more formal.as long as u are able to understand can liao | |
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Lolzorx Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1140 Age : 31 Location : Dats Center Riverfront Registration date : 2009-05-02
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:15 pm | |
| hope that it starts early cos ends dam late | |
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AngryBoy92 Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 601 Age : 31 Location : Sg Registration date : 2008-10-15
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:45 pm | |
| 9. Targeting Targets must always be chosen during activation, not during resolution. So there is no missing of timing.
Targetting Granted
There already granted this in the forum ler pls change this =_= | |
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bishzor101 Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 680 Age : 31 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-11-29
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:48 pm | |
| Are cards from Tournament Packs allowed? | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:23 am | |
| hey guys please take sometime to read the rules all over again
NEW RULE playmat is either made of paper or cloth ,CUSTOM MADE ARE NOT ALLOWED | |
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Axehead Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 28 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-07-18
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:04 pm | |
| LOL, thought Jess really going to make RIP Lightlord playmat to play. | |
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Proxy King Duelist
Number of posts : 94 Age : 33 Location : kiwira.deviantart.com Registration date : 2009-09-17
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:43 pm | |
| i forsee that lightlords will win this one out | |
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bahamut84 Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1232 Age : 39 Location : Antartica Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:14 pm | |
| - je$$ wrote:
- hey guys please take sometime to read the rules all over again
NEW RULE playmat is either made of paper or cloth ,CUSTOM MADE ARE NOT ALLOWED Why must have playmat anyway, there is not gonna be any konami rep to see "the wonderful things" they have done. | |
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Lockon Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 103 Age : 32 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2009-09-22
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:31 pm | |
| HAHA !!! Konami sux cause their playmate so aweful looking... | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:18 pm | |
| can red daemon wif code:WJMP-JP010 be used? can rite? | |
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AngryBoy92 Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 601 Age : 31 Location : Sg Registration date : 2008-10-15
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:08 am | |
| So long it is reprinted den yes =) | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:39 am | |
| then rite. on the paper and pen. can i like write wadeva my opp mill? LOL. | |
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Proxy King Duelist
Number of posts : 94 Age : 33 Location : kiwira.deviantart.com Registration date : 2009-09-17
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:01 am | |
| write anything , draw your opp face also can | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:02 am | |
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wingwing98 Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1083 Age : 34 Location : bishan Registration date : 2008-09-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:09 am | |
| it's ok if there are margins and lines. | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:10 am | |
| i meant like i write dwn card effects/card names. or anything regarding ruling/cards | |
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Proxy King Duelist
Number of posts : 94 Age : 33 Location : kiwira.deviantart.com Registration date : 2009-09-17
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:18 am | |
| i dont think formulas are needed to bring in unlike how you wish that a/o lv papers can
the paper and pen is just a tool used to take note or write down whatever is necessary , as long as you can read what you write
usually pyscho people use it to check whether their opp key cards like torrent and mirror force are gone already or not ,gives confidence in making decisions
or when there's a check on their opp hand cards , like dust shoot , etc smart people take the effort to write down the cards in their hand , so can come out with whatever strategy gundu people are just too smart they have good memory | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:19 am | |
| okae... true. true:D ty for answering all my questions. cya:D | |
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jian_xin85 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 103 Age : 38 Location : singapore Registration date : 2007-12-20
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:32 pm | |
| then upper deck play mat can use? | |
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bahamut84 Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1232 Age : 39 Location : Antartica Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:59 pm | |
| Lightlord scrubbed, true story. | |
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andrewspectra Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 406 Age : 32 Location : Penang,Malaysia Registration date : 2009-05-19
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:08 pm | |
| who won? ALEX YEO? i think he will .LOL | |
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Sazabi Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1042 Age : 30 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2009-04-11
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:09 pm | |
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andrewspectra Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 406 Age : 32 Location : Penang,Malaysia Registration date : 2009-05-19
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:16 pm | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:29 pm | |
| did lucksworn take the win? hope not =S | |
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andrewspectra Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 406 Age : 32 Location : Penang,Malaysia Registration date : 2009-05-19
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:37 pm | |
| lol . lightlord wins again . jess' s your banner is proven wrong . So yeah. Malaysia tourney sure lightlord also. | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:38 pm | |
| - andrewspectra wrote:
- lol . lightlord wins again . jess' s your banner is proven wrong . So yeah. Malaysia tourney sure lightlord also.
lol how u know ll win? =S | |
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andrewspectra Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 406 Age : 32 Location : Penang,Malaysia Registration date : 2009-05-19
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:39 pm | |
| i asked neuxcharge .LOL.couldnt wait d. | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:42 pm | |
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je$$ Privaron
Number of posts : 1339 Age : 15 Location : admiralty Registration date : 2007-12-21
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:54 pm | |
| topic is locked til further notice,this topic will become a "flaming" for the entire players who particapted today enjoying the rubbish format.Every1 are allowed to flame and post complain,more details will be posted later at 1st post
staff member who wanna flame just carry on but dont unlock 1st | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:45 am | |
| Seriously. But there are some issues that I wish to mention about player's attitute towards TIME MANAGEMENT.
As you all know time management is of utmost importance and purposely dragging time away [like a few distinguished players in the tournament have done and I do not wish to arrow anyone but I think you guys will know it is anyway]
eg. People REQUESTING for timeout [my friend was a victim of this] and People playing decks that require a lot of time [there's one VERY significant deck played] but yet still taking their own sweet time.
Woah round 1 timeout dam long liao still got 1 person playing [self touching somemore]
and that results in the lack of time AND WTF IM IN TOP 16 BUT ONLY TOP 8 only a few will understand how I feel, probably skydraz and the rest of the top16 | |
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bahamut84 Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1232 Age : 39 Location : Antartica Registration date : 2007-12-16
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:16 pm | |
| If you are mentioning the dude with the countdown deck he took only at most an additional 5 mins into sudden death and plus he only did 2 time over wins. so thats 15 mins max if you take into account of the time on side decking. Oh wait that was me. Btw, there are other people who played a NORMAL deck and still went into sudden death anyway. Just because someone touched themself into time out and last minute changes has to be made, it further proves the poor time management in which situations where sudden deaths and time outs are not taken into consideration. And then the swiss pairing system, if I am not wrong, it only takes a click to do a "pair" and another click to "print" and then going over to the pillar to paste it up. Yesterday, it took slightly longer than that to actually do the steps above. Maybe the person behind the computer is busy trying to adjust some stuff, I wouldn't know Suggestion: Get bigger space such that one round don't have to be played in 2 waves. JJ have been organising the tournament for so many years and they still don't understand that? I would tell Jimmy myself but you guys are the organisers and I think the issue will come up in the next tournament meeting or something. Oh and also, it is rumored you were the guy who got the walkover in the controversial round 2. Care to comment? | |
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DSummon Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1337 Age : 39 Location : Duelist Academy Registration date : 2007-12-15
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:50 pm | |
| Well, Extra Win deck is a deck that orginated from Japan, and is played over there. I dont see any big issue over there with such decks. Isnt that the whole issue of why there are rulings of time per round, etc? Any tournament has to be planned based on the full time per round, plus some extra time for the last 3 rounds to be played.
It is totally the organizer's fault, when they have over 100+ players each year in the tournament, yet only get a location that can cater to less then that. Then ends up that they have to hold double for each round, and end up insufficient time to be there. With a bigger location they can handle even an 8 round swiss with the same time spent! Nobody would have complained then. Alternatively, they could have carried on with the old 1st round elimination, then carry on with Swiss if there was not enough space. Of course, if they felt too many clan members might be killed off in that first round, then well.....
PS: I notice a trend between the people defending them, and the ones spotted with pairing errors. Note: score of 1-0 and received bye? STRONG!
Kinda an ad for the new blog as well, heh, but for more details on cheating spotted, you may view following Dueling Days Blog Cheating Days Blog | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:55 pm | |
| Not that I know of anything behind the computer. If I had already known about the walkover I got in the 2nd round I wouldn't have got so fed up because I wanted to play. And what's so controversial about the second round? A walkover wouldn't be good because it screws my scores up. And besides, I don't need walkovers to get into top8/top16.
I paid 10 bucks to play, not to sit down and do nothing/waiting for walkover. Get over with that idea.
One thing - If SMU lan lan dun want give seats then MOV/WOJJ also suck thumb cannot do anything. | |
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Ron Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1154 Age : 33 Location : Singapore, Pasir Ris Registration date : 2007-12-22
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:01 pm | |
| - DSummon wrote:
- Well, Extra Win deck is a deck that orginated from Japan, and is played over there. I dont see any big issue over there with such decks. Isnt that the whole issue of why there are rulings of time per round, etc? Any tournament has to be planned based on the full time per round, plus some extra time for the last 3 rounds to be played.
It is totally the organizer's fault, when they have over 100+ players each year in the tournament, yet only get a location that can cater to less then that. Then ends up that they have to hold double for each round, and end up insufficient time to be there. With a bigger location they can handle even an 8 round swiss with the same time spent! Nobody would have complained then. Alternatively, they could have carried on with the old 1st round elimination, then carry on with Swiss if there was not enough space. Of course, if they felt too many clan members might be killed off in that first round, then well.....
PS: I notice a trend between the people defending them, and the ones spotted with pairing errors. Note: score of 1-0 and received bye? STRONG!
Kinda an ad for the new blog as well, heh, but for more details on cheating spotted, you may view following Dueling Days Blog Cheating Days Blog Hmm well I don't know much about mantis system but... I do know that the pairings are screwed up. I don't understand why a person with 1 win is being paired with a person with 0 wins... DS, finding a location that big is easily said than done. If it were so easy, MOV would have found a suitable location long before you guys did. Not to mention costs incurred. [Which I am totally oblivious of] | |
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DSummon Millennium Earl
Number of posts : 1337 Age : 39 Location : Duelist Academy Registration date : 2007-12-15
| Subject: Re: LET THE FLAME BURN 4EVER..... Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:18 pm | |
| Well, you are talking to someone who has previously organized the tournaments before and is head judge, and has experience using the Mantis system. So replying to your comments here.
1. If no idea of how the mantis system works then dont comment on it. It is IMPOSSIBLE for the mantis system to do the following in an auto pairing: - Give a person with 1-0 a bye in the 2nd round - Pair up the same opponent twice (Unless you play like, 4 round swiss and you have only 3 opponents) - Pair down when there are people on the same level available (If only 2 people have 1-0 left, the Mantis pairs them together, not pair them both to people with 0-1) - Considering all the above has happened, anybody who has even REMOTELY used the Mantis system will know that something in the background has happened
2. Location is hard to find because of the following - Organizer is cheap. Its not hard to find a location, its just more expensive to find bigger location obviously. But that comes with budget constraints so we shall not touch on that, which brings us to my next point - Hence, do a single eli first, then do swiss all the way, so that you only need to the swiss 1 time for each round, not Swiss round 1 part 2, Swiss round 2 part 1, etc. If you plan it like that, obviously you are going to end up with insufficient time - As discussed, they should have planned enough time, especially when it is officially known there is such a deck like Extra Win. Not allocate lesser time then official tournament rulings, then blame people for playing such decks. I dont like slow decks as well but it is no excuse.
3. In response to your talk about why YOU got the bye when you have 1-0 - Talk is cheap. We have no interest in what you feel about playing or not, end point is you got it when it should not even happen in the first place for a clean pairing (Refer to point 1). Since its obviously rigged, who knows? - The point here is not whether it is you or whoever got that bye with a 1-0 score (Common knowledge that you belong that that group does not help your case) The main point, which I still refer to point 1, is that it is IMPOSSIBLE (I repeat), for Mantis to do something like that when you do a clean auto pairing. The cheaters behind the computer gave you the bye without your knowledge? Too bad, live with it, because thats the way this works, it was still something that is not supposed to happen.
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Ron Elite Duelist
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| Obviously I know that someone with 1 win cannot be paired with one that has 0 win right? Kinda obvious though.
Well I shall not comment on further. Do what you want to do, say what you want to say.
And stop sounding like I am cheating. That's a big insult. | |
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