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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| ok. so. i'm really convinced that chaos sorcerer can make it big it the new format. but i've never really been sure what kind of deck it would fit in. most established decks that it CAN fit in don't really the space for 2 copies. so this is just an idea i came up with on paper, haven't tested it yet. R/F! thanks in advance =]
Chaos Removal (STUN)
Main Deck
Monsters: 19
2x Chaos Sorcerer 1x Dark Armed Dragon 2x Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer 3x Death Caliber Knight 2x Breaker the Magical Warrior 3x D.D. Warrior Lady 3x Raiou 2x Lightlord Hunter Raikou 1x Cyber Dragon
Spells: 13
2x Allure of Darkness 2x Gold Sarcophagus 2x D.D.R. 2x Book of Moon 2x Shrink 1x Pot of Avarice 1x Smashing Ground 1x Heavy Storm
Traps: 8
3x Royal Oppression 1x Torrential Tribute 2x Bottomless Trap Hole 1x Mirror Force 1x Trap Dustshoot
Side Deck: (still under re-construction)
2x D.D. Crow 2x Lightlord Monk Eileen 2x Mirror of Oaths 3x Dust Tornado 3x Trap Stun (one sided royal oppression muhahaha) 3x Skill Drain
FIXES:
10/9/09
-3 Dark Bribe (after testing, ok yeah citizen0 u were right abt this lol, meh bad) +3 Royal Oppression -1 Moon +1 Smashing Ground
side deck reconstruction finished.
Last edited by slyx183 on Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:21 am; edited 4 times in total | |
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slashandroses Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 188 Age : 31 Location : singapore, sembawang Registration date : 2009-02-17
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:48 pm | |
| i tink somehow use include honest? and uh do something bout 3 death calibur, 3 warrior ladies and raikous? | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:30 pm | |
| u want to be more specific? "do something" as in out all, out 1/2 or...? | |
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jadow Senior Duelist
Number of posts : 675 Age : 34 Location : timah Registration date : 2008-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:21 pm | |
| the thing is y do u want to depend on the 2 chaos socerors to win?
use an idea. fuse graveBF and lightlords.
2x ddr isnt such a good idea. add in the last bk of moon. | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:36 pm | |
| - jadow wrote:
- the thing is y do u want to depend on the 2 chaos socerors to win?
use an idea. fuse graveBF and lightlords.
2x ddr isnt such a good idea. add in the last bk of moon. well i've thought about grave BF with lightlord b4. but the main issue with that is the fact that vayu can't be synched with other stuff besides other BF non tuners. its like wat happened with my previous twilight deck. too many things in 1 deck. btw sorcerer isn't really the primary win condition, its just there because of the raiou's and DCK's i'm sending to the grave. that way i'm splashing chaos sorc for more removal, but not affecting the general gel of stun. basically i'm trying to find a deck that has both light and dark existing already, and not combining two decks together, because it doesn't really work... yeah i was a bit iffy on the 2 ddr's, thanks for the fixes jadow! | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:41 pm | |
| fixed.
back to ur point abt grave bf and lightlord jadow, i realized that if the deck was majority grave bf with teched lightlord (which is the way the deck is run currently) sorcerer could be splashed. back to the drawing board i guess! | |
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Axehead Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 28 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-07-18
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:36 pm | |
| - jadow wrote:
- the thing is y do u want to depend on the 2 chaos socerors to win?
use an idea. fuse graveBF and lightlords.
2x ddr isnt such a good idea. add in the last bk of moon. I believe that's what Americans and Europeans call Vayusworn. | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:48 pm | |
| - Axehead wrote:
- jadow wrote:
- the thing is y do u want to depend on the 2 chaos socerors to win?
use an idea. fuse graveBF and lightlords.
2x ddr isnt such a good idea. add in the last bk of moon. I believe that's what Americans and Europeans call Vayusworn. must ang moh's always go and give these things names... last time was zombiesworn lol. any other fixes axehead? | |
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Axehead Judai Yuki
Number of posts : 2490 Age : 28 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-07-18
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:09 am | |
| Further fixes are usually only individual player's opinion. But in my opinion I would align the deck towards either side more than the other.
More towards the light side would mean making room for Honest, and several more light beatsticks such as maybe Banisher of Radiance. While more to the dark side would mean running allure, and finding room for Kycooooooooo.
But either way, I feel STUN doesn't need to run tribute monsters like Gaius cause they don't really have anything to use as tribute fodder. I wouldn't call Raiou, D.D Warrior Lady or Deathcalibur Knight fodder cause they would serve better purposes rather than being sacrificed. Only thing would probably be a Breaker with a used counter, but that puny 1600 isn't gonna stay there for long. And that's still not counting consistency issues.
So yup that's my 2 cents. | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:43 pm | |
| thanks to citizen0 for the inspiration to get back to this deck and fixing it =P
FIXES:
8/9/09
-1 CotH +1 D.D.R. (actually pretty damn useful lol) -2 Gaius +2 Kycoo (reconstructing side-deck) | |
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citizen0 Trainee Duelist
Number of posts : 11 Age : 31 Location : japan Registration date : 2009-09-08
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:43 am | |
| Monsters: 20
2x Chaos Sorcerer 1x Dark Armed Dragon 2x Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer 3x Death Caliber Knight 3x Breaker the Magical Warrior 3x D.D. Warrior Lady 3x Raiou 2x Lightlord Hunter Raikou(why? aside for fueling for dad or sorcerer, i really dont like the fact that its 1 turn slow. if u really want this tech poa. and only run 1. ryko is best in zombie chaos imo or ls. 1x Cyber Dragon
Spells: 12
2x Allure of Darkness 2x Gold Sarcophagus(i feel indifferent about this card. 2 turns slow and kinda waste of a draw imo) 2x D.D.R.(maybe 1) 3x Book of Moon(u need destruction, some of the butts of monsters are pretty big!) 2x Shrink 1x Heavy Storm
Traps: 8
3x Dark Bribe(why +3!!!!!!!!) 1x Torrential Tribute 2x Bottomless Trap Hole 1x Mirror Force 1x Trap Dustshoot
ill be back ltr for ideas | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:26 pm | |
| FIXES:
10/9/09
-3 Dark Bribe (after testing, ok yeah citizen0 u were right abt this lol, meh bad) +3 Royal Oppression -1 Moon +1 Smashing Ground
side deck reconstruction finished.
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fireowners Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1332 Age : 30 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-06-08
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:00 am | |
| Not a bad deck..... So how does it test 4 u??? | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:02 am | |
| try running a cold wave. can it for ur chaos soc and DAD . | |
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fireowners Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1332 Age : 30 Location : Singapore Registration date : 2008-06-08
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:05 am | |
| But won't cold wave tuin his spell and trap line-up? | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:07 am | |
| thats the bad part of it. they had pros and cons. it depends on how u manage it larh. cold wave and like an otk, why not. cold wave and bye judgement, whye not. cold wave and bang gb,whye not cold wave and RFG stardust bursty, whye not.
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:18 am | |
| @ fireowners
uhh its just a typical anti-meta deck laugh at ur opponent blah blah but of course inevitably get otked sometimes cuz speed def not as fast as meta decks. i'm going to out a breaker soon, too slow. i see why konami unlimited it. other than that its ok. still getting used to the different playstyle compared to the aggro decks i'm used to playing, but its fun in its own way.
@ xiaocola
with so many otk decks roaming around, cold wave in a control deck is asking for ur a$$ to be whooped. but i guess i can tech 1 in the side against other more spell trap reliant decks like gb's and (zomg zomg dknightz' stardust buster deck =O) XD
thanks for all the comments guys! | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:19 am | |
| currently. i doubt they are any imba otk eh? can name me some stable and fast ones? | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:22 am | |
| ok stable maybe not. u got me there.
but fast. vayu, lightlord (well soon at least, in 9 more days)... uh ok. yeah. bleh. ok maybe not so many after all XD | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:26 am | |
| lightlord then side out IMO. cos that deck will use it against u also. so can side out.
vayu? vayu from wad i think. only runs burial for fast otk larh. basically dunnid much oso. therefore,dunnid scared them oso. but it is the qulat u are scared:P
maybe can add 1 kycoo in side deck just for these decks. scared of 4 Ls and vayu marh:D | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:29 am | |
| mhm i think i might do that. problem is space. wat i mean is vayu doesn't get hurt by wave so its pointless running it against them.
aside from the 2 mained kycoo;s, pls refer to the 3x oppression =D only thing scared of is cherubim lol | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:11 am | |
| hmmm 3x oppression is very risky for decks now. cos breaker x3 lylax3 cherubim x3 mst heavy storm. when solemn AT 1X. it is risky for that card | |
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citizen0 Trainee Duelist
Number of posts : 11 Age : 31 Location : japan Registration date : 2009-09-08
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:50 am | |
| opression is better sided. i side barborous and skill drain. it wrecks! since dk still gets tribute effect, tk tribute for special summon and barbie is 3000 | |
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XiaoCola Elite Duelist
Number of posts : 1427 Age : 30 Location : On The Moon. Registration date : 2009-02-07
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:05 pm | |
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slyx183 Junior Duelist
Number of posts : 169 Age : 30 Location : Beijing, China (BUT S'POREAN AT HEART!) Registration date : 2009-08-16
| Subject: Re: Chaos Removal (STUN style) Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:14 pm | |
| tk = thunder king raiou. which if u know jap means thunder king thunder king... lol.
@ citizen
mhm i've sided skill drains as well. might be able to fit some barbaros in there too. uhh if i side oppression what should i main? 2 fissures? | |
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